‘Pretty’ Isn’t Enough
(and Why This Podcast Matters)
Born out of a desire to go deeper than surface-level advice, we’re here to solve real-world marketing problems, share actionable insights, and shine a spotlight on the incredible professionals who make magic happen behind the scenes. We tackle the tough topics, with a blend of humor, authenticity, and a relentless focus on innovation.

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Redefining Marketing + Design
A platform to inspire leaders to make more innovative marketing decisions, showcase your brilliance, and have a little fun along the way.

We’re Not About Fluff
We’re here to challenge the way you think, spark new ideas, and leave you with actionable steps to grow your career and your business.

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We envision a world where marketing and design professionals feel seen, supported, and celebrated. Where leaders make bold, strategic moves that build better teams and better brands.
The Story Behind Fostering Hope with Chris Hartley
Chris Hartley has spent years bringing Life Lessons withDaddy to life. On the surface, Fostering Hope is a children's book about kindness, empathy and helping children and families experiencing foster care. But underneath it is a much more personal story about...
The Leadership Shift with Abby Cornelius
Being great at the work does notautomatically make someone great at leading it. In this episode, Sarah sits down with Abby Cornelius, leadership trainer with Elevate Actually, to talk about the shift from high-performing individual contributor to effective leader....
Why Sales Training Doesn’t Stick with Malcolm Walker-Hendricks
Sales teams spend a lot of time learning how to sell better. Conferences, workshops, scripts, objection handling, discovery frameworks, follow-up strategies...the training is there. So why does so little of it actually stick? In this episode of Just Make It Pretty,...
Creating More Women Leaders with Erin Yarbrough
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Keeping A Brand Consistent with Kista Cook
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She Built More Than a Business with Mollie Elkman
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Be the Voice People Remember
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